Fairy Tail Chapter 507 Spoilers

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Fairy Tail Chapter 507 Spoilers

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Natsu recalls saying he doesn’t want to see Erza crying and looking weak.
Gray recalling similar thing that Erza’s needed at Fairy Tail so that no one cries
Then Erza says take a good look at who’s in front of you, are they an enemy or ally.

They recall Makarov telling them it’s okay to fight sometimes, that it’s normal if you’re honest with yourself, but you have to do it with respect towards each other, not hate or with grudge.
That that’s what family is.

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Juvia tells Grey and the others she’s fine.
Wendy asked Erza what that light was earlier.

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Irene shows up telling Erza it’s been a while.
Lucy asked if Erza knows her, and she says no, and Wendy’s like, she kinda looks like Erza

 

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Irene: “I am you.” You are me.”

Chapter 508: Pleasure and Pain

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  • Vic Romero

    WHATTTT

  • LiterallyJustFairyTail

    OH MY GOD OKAY WHAT? AH.

  • Robin Purnama

    Maybe Irene is Erza from the future?no,it won’t be possible. I don’t think she is Irene’s sword like the other two because Neinhart called Erza with Lady so Erza and Irene must be related beyond master and sword somehow

    • Hella

      If Erza was an enchanted sword, wouldn’t she have turned into a sword when she had magic sealing stones on her? She probably wouldn’t be able to age either if she were an enchanted sword. Makarov probably would’ve realized she was an enchantment if she actually was one.

      • Robin Purnama

        Yeah, Irene would just turned Erza back to sword if she was an enchanted sword (Irene wanted Erza to dead so badly). We will know either next week or this chapter about both of them.

    • The Fabulous Wombat

      I do not think Eileen is Erza, but maye Erza’s daughter from the future?

      • Robin Purnama

        But she said that “I am you and you are me”. Irene wouldn’t wanted erza to die if erza is his mother. Irene will never born if Erza dies.

        • The Fabulous Wombat

          I don’t think it’d be that simple and straightforward. There’s more to it than just 2 Erza’s.

          • Robin Purnama

            Maybe it’s similar to Mitsuki in Boruto.

    • heavenlybodyknight

      Doesn’t make sense. Irene ordered for Erza to be killed. Why would she want to kill her current self if that were the case? Irene would then cease to exist.

      • LoveAnimation

        Its possible that Erza was created to be just like Eileen and that Eileen is not from the future.\nThat Erza was supposed to be like a copy or something like that.

  • LiterallyJustFairyTail

    Can we just like talk about that nalu hug rn….

    • Anas Amen

      They hugged each other ?

      • Kazui (Secret Senju)

        Lucy hugged Natsu who’s basically almost unconscious from the behind.

  • Kazui (Secret Senju)

    Goddamn it. Ships need to fucking leave now. It’s getting real irritating that Lucy and Juvia are only used for their ships. They have done nothing for so long.

    • LiterallyJustFairyTail

      Well I mean while I am a hardcore shipper, I do kind of agree with you. But still, we can see how much Lucy has grown as a person in the last few chapters

      • Kazui (Secret Senju)

        Oh yeah, the whole “If I beat you, you help Natsu” part right? I can see some character development but it just gets ruined if she’s all about Natsu and not her own person.

        • LiterallyJustFairyTail

          True true, but I mean when Dimara threatened to cut out Lucy’s eyes Lucy was kinda a bad ass. BUT I’m so upset about how little we get to see Juvia grow!!

          • Kazui (Secret Senju)

            I have no hope for Juvia at this point. All she is useless as useless can get.\nBut I did like that moment with Lucy ngl.

    • LoveAnimation

      I dont think the stuff with Erza, Lucy or Juvia is supposed to be romantic shipping right now or anything like that.\nIts just the girls comforting the boys and trying to make them calm down and stop fighting.

  • Kazui (Secret Senju)

    Also it seems like the 2nd half of the chapter will be the better half. I’m pretty sure people don’t want to hear another Nakama Speech.

    • LoveAnimation

      A loved one dying feels like the perfect time for a “nakama” speach to me.\nPeople need kind words in times like this.

  • looks like Irene Erza from a different timeline or she is the other half (the bad part)

    • T Hikari

      Irene is erza shadow.

  • ekaterina

    WHATT THE HECK

  • lalalalamon

    okay NOW I’M Excited

  • Hella

    Maybe they’re homunculus clones or something. It’d explain why the hell they’re so strong.

  • LoveMeSomePhilly

    PLOT MUTHAFUCKIN TWIST

  • That reminds me… Kyouka made a scar in Erza’s belly during the torture… Irene have a scar in the same place Erza had in Tartaros arc…

    • lalalalamon

      Now Erza’s two hands are (kinda) messed up, and Eileen is wearing gloves (or have weird hands, I lean for the gloves)… Maybe Eileen is from a more messed up parallel world or from a future timeline.

      • Robert Orwell

        Or Erza is one of Eilleen’s creations that ran out of control. Remember she had bestowed life in two swords, creating Juliet and Heyne. So…

        • lalalalamon

          Interesting point, but if Eileen wants to eliminate Erza then why can’t she just do so? If she bestow lives so easily I think it would also be easy for her to take away lives from her creations. Why bother sending Neinhart and now herself to face Erza if Erza is just a creation?

          • Robert Orwell

            Yeah, good point too.

    • Kemor

      That would mean that she was never suspended in time. Notice that she looks like a grown woman, while Erza is basically a kid. I know, 20 is not a kid, but compared to Irene she may as well be. That would mean she got her scar 1 year prior to this arc, and I don’t see Kyoka even scratching Irene, let alone scarring her.

      • It was actually during her fight against Neihart in the Historia of Corpses, Ikagura did.

        • MsChanify

          Erza does not have any scars? Like, I’m looking at the latest chapter and I don’t see it? But if Eileen/Irene is Erza then either from the future/different parallel eventually her twin… that I could imagine.

  • Takaflame

    Ok Hiro has fucking lost wtf is this? this ain’t making zero sense.

    • Kazui (Secret Senju)

      How so?

      • Takaflame

        One Erza stopping both Natsu and Gray and her hands are still ok. \nTwo fucking Natsu in half END mode was stopped how the fuck when he was hyped to be god tier level. \nThree Gray going all out and for sure End wasn’t at 100% \nAnd now that girl is not her mother but other self? wtf what plot is this?

        • Anas Amen

          Natsu wasn’t even half END

          • Takaflame

            What bs he was he was turning demon.

          • Natsu Drangeel

            Erza stoppin both natsu and grey it’s call power of feeling

          • The Fabulous Wombat

            Natsu better be at like, 5% end for Erza to be able to block it. Cause END is supposed to be a threat to Acno. And if Erza can block it, then it has to be at like 5-10 percent. Cause Acno is a whole lot tougher than 10 Erza’s.

          • Takaflame

            Yeah so out of nowhere Erza got some power up right from Hiro’s ass and was able to stop him and Gray.

          • Adil Boughlala

            (just made an acc to say this) Dude Makarov just fucking died. No one else who remembers? Okay. Erza is done with those 2 and she dont care she wants to stop them. And wtf look at her she got bruises all over her, this is nothing compared to other injuries she’s gotten in her past fights. I’m just saying thst she isnt done fighting her “big fight”. U want Hiro to get super realistic (pretty hard for a fantasy manga tho) and get Erza all beaten up just by stopping Gray and Natsu and fight Irene after that? That makes even less sense.

          • Takaflame

            He’ll be back characters never die in FT.

          • Adil Boughlala

            Clearly you haven’t read Mashima’s interview a few weeks/months b4 the war begun. He said that this time there will be deaths. And if you think about it, how many times has Makarov gotten a fake death? Too many. If you’re right and Makarov won’t die, most of his fans would probably be disappointed and I think that’s why Mashima’s decided to keep it this way: Makarov stays dead and FT gets another reason to get stronger

          • DamonDraco

            It was never said END is a threat to Acnologia, Mard Geer just ASSUMED Acno was afraid of it during Tartaros. But we forget that Acnologia can sense Dragon Slayers and there were FIVE in the area.\n\n(P.S:I was trying to reply to someone else but whatever).

          • Adil Boughlala

            Lol it’s okay I got startled thinking I said something stupid abt End and Tartarus

          • Robert Orwell

            Six, actually. Laxus was there too, even though he remained unconscious all the war long.

          • The Real Tobi (Cana)

            Lol he was still turning he was like a 1/4 and Erza was being blasted by fodder the chapter before, and then she still hasn’t healed from all her fights Wendy wasn’t able to heal her 100%

          • Anas Amen

            Not even 1/4 half of his arms were only demonized is that 1/4 ???\nErza always stop Natsu/Gray fight it make sense for her to stop it again. No one but mashima knows how power scaling works in FT.

          • The Fabulous Wombat

            LOL, it’s funny you think he knows either.

          • Anas Amen

            Yes because he is the author.. Don’t know if you’re joking or not tbh.. FT fans are weird. 😛

          • The Fabulous Wombat

            Im telling he obviously makes shit up as he goes lol

          • The Real Tobi (Cana)

            His arms and hands had demonized so had parts of his face and he was able to curbstomp DImaria and Gray curbstomped Invel so they are both enraged and fighting on a higher tier tha a injured and worn out Erza, to just randomly find them even though she had no way of knowing where they were is just…..\nLame excuse just because she always can doesn’t mean she can just leap in and overpower two people who took down two spriggens quite easily who were stronger than the one she could barely handle, not to mention she was tired and injured, so yes it is entirely BS for her to stop the attack and barely be injured

        • Kazui (Secret Senju)

          I totally forgot about her hands tbh

          • Takaflame

            Telling you mate Hiro losing it.

        • LoveAnimation

          The stuff with E.N.D is obiusly not over yet and he will probably transform again later.\nIts very possible that Natsu started to transform because he got angry and now that hes calming down hes going back to normal for now.

        • Porthya

          And where was it said that Natsu was in E.N.D. “half-mode”?! Seriously, you’re making up the “reasons” over which to get annoyed/angry. We have no idea if that was just the tip of the ice-berg, 1/4 awakened, 2/3 or whatever, we just got a glimpse and given this story’s direction, it’s intentionally teased already so the other characters would learn to deal at least partially with the reveal, in order for them to fit the usual FT mindset once he fully “awakens” and needs help to overcome the downsides.

    • LoveMeSomePhilly

      First, Takaflame I see we go to a lot of the same websites lol. Second, let’s see the explanation next chapter and if it’s a gigantic ass pull. My guess? She’s Erza Knightwalker.

      • The Fabulous Wombat

        I swear, if they pull that Knightwalker shit, ima flip the table. That would make pretty much no sense.

      • Takaflame

        Lol we do? gotta stop following me then dude. Nah I am already disappointed at this. Waiting on black dragon to come in and start killing people.

        • LoveMeSomePhilly

          This is Fairy Tail. He’ll dominate for 2 chapters before he loses randomly lol

          • Takaflame

            I only expect tits in this man the fighting sucks tbh.

          • temi andre

            I swear if natsu doesnt enter into his E.N.D state im gonna break something\nThey cant just leave so hanging like this\nCome hiro

        • Chica Loca

          YASS ikr. I’m like waiting for it too happen!! A 3-way battle between END Natsu, Zeref, and Acnologia… a dream come true!! <3

      • JE ER

        knightwalker has scar on her face

    • LoveAnimation

      This stuff is going to be more explained in later chapters so wait fo more information before you say it does not make any sense,

    • Nur Ania Ismal Hisham

      Dude what anime or cartoon you watch ? Cuz every detail makes no sense like their eyes or head but you know what? literally nothing makes sense\n

  • The Fabulous Wombat

    YES, the content we need! Honestly, i don’t give a shit about Natsu/Gray drama anymore, i just wanna see the main spriggans fight and get this shit over with. August vs Crime Sorcier, let’s go!

    • psycolm

      Yas!

  • Sugiura Hoaki

    I’m Japanese so I understand all of it! XD I’m 9 tho…

  • Sugiura Hoaki

    But the chapter is too slow

    • Kazui (Secret Senju)

      The chapter is even out yet. How is it too slow?

  • starr27 light

    Knightwalker maybe?

    • JE ER

      nah nightwalker has scar on her face

    • Naza Lover

      But Knightwalker can’t use magic or have magic power, right? Nobody is Edolas can.\nEileen appear to possess a massive amounts of magic rivaling August.\nUnless she have a somekind of Ethernano Lacrima that allow her to have and use magic, I don’t think is Knightwalker or I could be wrong and is indeed Knightwaker.

      • Porthya

        She could naturally use magic in Earthland where Ethernano is bountiful atm, Mystogan did while he was with FT. In Edolas it had been so overused and depleted they all needed devices to draw out the last ounces of it, in Earthland, due to most of the dragons being extinct(they were implied to have been the biggest users of it), and likely to the scarcity of mages(only 10% of the human population), the Ethernano is back to very high levels and available to anyone who has an affinity/the ability to use it. I doubt it would be Knightwalker, though, since she was far more of a Knight than Erza. She always came across as the strictly military woman.

        • Naza Lover

          Well, I always though that Mystogan only was able to use magic because the Staffs he carried with him, since unlike Natsu and the others he never took the x-ball that enabled then to use their magic on Edolas and that the residents of Edolas where unable to use magic like the Earthland ones, because they don’t have innate magic abilities or a magic container don’t remember correctly which one was.\n\nIf I remember correctly Igneel said that in the past the Ethernano levels where low and that was the reason for their plan, in sealing thenselves insides their kids and go to the future so the abundant amount of Ethernano would help in repairing their souls.\n\nI don’t think Eileen is Knightwalker either, Eileen is too casual and sly, to be someone strict as Edo-Erza and she had show to like long-ranged attacks, Knightwalker used a spear to fight.

        • Phil Iliromah

          Mystogan never used magic naturally. He had always channelled his magic through 3magical staffs. His magical instruments

          • Porthya

            I always took him for a holder type, must’ve missed the explanation

          • Phil Iliromah

            People from edolas don’t have magic… even on earth.

          • Kyn Katan

            They do have magic. Edola magic equipment and Earthland magic equipment is way different since Edola is more like Lacrima storing the magic while Earth is activated by the mage itself but the effects is dependent on the weapon.\n\nWay early on the series they explained that the was the type of magic called “Holder” magic, which means mages that needs item to work, Lucy falls into that category, her keys “hold” the type of magic but she provides the magic to activate (no key no spirit). Also Mystogan is not the only Edola person on the series Porlyusica is also from Edola and she was never shown with any kind of hold magic and since she is a mage and was part of fairy tail she should be able to do some kind of magic. (probably supporting ones like Wendy but magic nevertheless)\n\nMystogan just used the staffs because he was more comfortable with them, the staff still required his magic to activate.

          • Phil Iliromah

            No no and no. That’s just wrong. They don’t hold magic in themselves

          • actionmanrandell

            the staffs never drawed out anything. the staffs had magic in them and he used that magic. but he himself has never had magic in his body

          • Phil Iliromah

            Exactly..but my point is while he didn’t have magic he owned the staffs which have magic. So technically, the magic is still his.

          • actionmanrandell

            thats a bad case of semantics. he had possession of the weapons but the magic was the magic bound in the weapons. ie the magic was not his

          • Phil Iliromah

            Ion know what we are arguing here. We both agree Edolas citizens don’t have magic and their weapons do. Perhaps my explanation confuses you. The weapons can’t use the magic they have. They have to be channelled by the owner of the weapons. Agreed???

          • actionmanrandell

            the edolas magical weapons all have lacrima, which by definition can use the magic on there own. magic if accumulated to a high enough level in a small area can explode and as such that magic can be used by the weapon itself. the only thing the user does is push a lever or a button that allows the magic to be expelled. its the lacrima’s magic not the owner of the weapon

        • actionmanrandell

          he never had magic in earthland. edolas people don’t have magic in there system. not even a billionth of a fraction. they are all holder types. meaning they use magic from an object.

    • Leebear513

      The main answer would probably be that she’s future erza

      • Brieanna The Artist

        If it was future Erza then why would she ask her to kill Erza? Then Irene would disappear, since if you die in your past you poof out of existence, kind of like how when future Lucy died, she said, “If you die, I’d die too anyways.”

        • Leebear513

          first off, it can’t be edolas erza since she has no magic, it Can be future erza, OR erza (fairytail) is a RECARNATION of THAT erza

        • Schneewind

          Erza will not die in that case because she is Erza! Ask Happy.

      • Jamie Jordan

        If that was the case than if Erza was killed she would also die

        • Leebear513

          i really dont know but thats just a prediction. i mean, erza (fairytail) could also be a recarnation of irene/eileen

    • Adil Boughlala

      Why do people forget the fact that Knightwalker could probably be an ally to Earthland Fairy Tail? Did you guys forget how the Erza vs Erza fight ended? It was an amazing fight :’) And yea just as others said she cant use none magic

  • Crafting Umbreon- Road to 100

    Ok i like fairy tail but y stop END V GRAYfight \n

  • FuuKaku

    I wonder where another Dragneel hide … He not appears yet… i’d been waiting too long

    • Robin Purnama

      Do you mean Larcade? Maybe he will fight Natsu after this.

      • iamleke

        NO Natsu shouldn’t fight again until his fight withZeref and Acnologia. He’s fought 3 Spriggans at this point

        • FuuKaku

          I think hiro wouldn’t show something repeatedly since he had showed us the battle of natsu vs zeref in the beginning.\n\nThe one possibly battle against natsu is larcade im agree with Robin

        • actionmanrandell

          logically speaking he should be able to easily one shot every spriggan. he one shotted a god of time. inside that gods time space

  • Savior

    I guess nobody expected this twist…nice

    • LoveAnimation

      When it comes to manga things happening that most people did not expect is a bad thing most of the time.

  • heavenlybodyknight

    Only thing about Irene being a future version of Erza is that it makes no sense for Irene to have Erza ordered to be killed. Had Erza been killed, Irene would’ve ceased to exist. If Irene doesn’t want to cease to exist, then I would think she’d do what she could to keep Erza alive during battle. I think it goes much deeper than that.\n\nAlso, Jellal!!!! <3

    • The Real Tobi (Cana)

      Unless it’s a split timeline, that has no effect on that future.

      • heavenlybodyknight

        Can you be more specific?

        • The Real Tobi (Cana)

          XD Sorry, well in fiction there are several different types of effects on time travel. One is whatever you do in the past changes the future, the other whatever you do in the past doesn’t change the future but creates an alternate future. For example the first one is like back to the future, and the second one is like in Dragon Ball where Trunk’s future is still different even after changing the past.\n\nSo if Eileen had killed this Erza it is possible she wouldn’t be destroyed at all.

    • Yuma Yamamoto

      “Now Erza’s two hands are (kinda) messed up, and Eileen is wearing gloves (or have weird hands, I lean for the gloves)… Maybe Eileen is from a more messed up parallel world or from a future timeline.” this

  • SkyWalker

    I wonder if Rahkeid is waiting to Acnologia.

  • Naza Lover

    I know this are simply the spoilers for the chapter, but so far nothing make sense even by FT standards.\nReally? Hiro had to do a shipping moment when it make no sense at all and is useless, even more E.N.D awakening seems to had stopped or at least for the moment.\n\nHope August really hurt Jellal, don’t like the guy( but respect those who do )\n\nNow the stuff with Irene and Erza is very confusing, if Irene is Erza why would she order that Erza is killed since that would probably cause her own death.\nIs she a future self who travel back using another Eclipse gate Zeref may have created or is she a alternate Erza? Had to wait to know.\nBut if Irene really is Erza, make sense why she is so beautiful, powerful, intimidating and threatening.\n\nAugust and Eileen are there, but where is Larcade is he waiting for Acnologia to arrive? O waiting at the Guild with Zeref as he is the secret weapon?

    • LoveAnimation

      The stuff with Erza was not supposed to be a romantic shipping moment if thats what you mean.\nShe wanted to calm them down because it seems she think they are just fighting like they have done ever since they where children and tell them that she loves them after losing Makarov.

      • Naza Lover

        No I didn’t mean that.\n\nI’m aware that she wanted to calm then down from their idiotic states, but she should have realized she was dealing with a Different Gray and Natsu, since clearly they wanted to hurt each other as evidenced by how her hands are after stopping then, they where unable to hurt her before but now is obvious her hands suffered damage because of then.

        • Porthya

          She simply disregards their current reasons by insisting on the predominant and common to all 3 features of their relationship. It’s a risk she assumes as their adoptive sibling and the only measure someone so emotionally shaken but still aware of how she truly feels about them should normally take. She chooses love over anger and resentment.

          • Naza Lover

            Hmmm, well she also doesn’t know the current reasons for their fight or that Natsu is E.N.D and that the reason why they are fighting.\nGray want to kill the Etherious while Natsu want to find and kill Zeref, but Gray prevented that which lead to their pointless fight.\n\nI don’t know Erza may attack or lose control of herself once she knew who is responsible for Makarov death( even though it clearly him who basically commited suicide )\nI know that Eileen said Erza and her are the same, but I still don’t understand that and she may attack Eileen after knowing who casted the berseker spell on the Alvarez soldiers, which caused Makarov death.

          • Porthya

            Well, I was only discussing her reaction to the situation with her brothers and her focus on making sure their family bonds trump whatever reason they might have to go against each-other, especially since with or without knowledge of E.N.D.’s identity, there doesn’t seem to be any genuine reason for them to fight each-other.\nEileen is still by all standards an enemy so anger and resentment towards her is perfectly due.

          • Naza Lover

            I see , we had to wait for the full chapter to see how things go.\n\nBut if Eileen is really Erza then is like they are resenting her.

  • Blazen91

    My guess is either, a twin; which I’m doubting atm. Or she is some kinda weird… copy…..thing…… i have no idea lol.\n\nI guess we could say she is from a different time line. But i don’t remember there being different time lines in Fairy Tail…. or time travel… stuff?\n\nUnless you count Edolas…. but that is more of a mirror world….. hmm maybe not.\n\nHonestly, i really have no idea. Also, i wonder what August can do? I don’t understand why he looks like that either. I must have missed something before haha.\n\nThanks anyway for the spoilers mate.

    • It can’t be Edolas, because Knightwalker can’t use magic, and there is time travel in Fairy Tail – Eclipse

      • Porthya

        They can’t use magic in Edolas, since the Ethernano was completely consumed, but in Earthland there’s plenty of it. Mystogan(Edo!Jellal) was quite proficient at using magic during his time in FT.

        • actionmanrandell

          Mystogan used holder magic. meaning he used a magic object. all the magic he used was inside the staffs and sticks he had. it doesn’t matter how much ethernano is around them. they don’t have magic in there system even in earthland

          • Porthya

            If Mystogan couldn’t naturally process ethernano in Earthland then that wasn’t holder magic(tbh I need to refresh my info on the guy), holder type is what Lucy, Erza, Cana, Bisca etc use, where they need a proxy item to channel their power, however, these characters can and do process ethernano on their own.

          • actionmanrandell

            wrong. Holder Magic is Magic that requires a Mage to use an external source to produce the Magic. It usually requires the use of Magic Power(example Lucy,Cana etc etc on a side note Erza and Bisca are not holder type. Erza has access to a magic called the knight which is a caster type of magic and spatial magic) Bisca has a type of requip called The Gunner which is also a caster type) though there are some exceptions such as Edolas Items that are powered by Lacrima. you see every item that Mystogan possesses is powered by a lacrima and not magic innate in his body

          • Porthya

            Sword Magic, used by Erza Scarlet, is a holder type, and I don’t get what you mean by “external sources”…Ethernano, which becomes Magic Power and its product when used by mages is found in the environment(yes, this is external, but to everyone), the actual source for all magic beings’s power. The difference in types is that some require an extra item for magic to be projected or given form(just like in the classic mage/wizard stories where wands and staffs are used). And a mage can be versatile enough to use multiple types and subtypes which actually can combine for some unique abilities/specialties. For instance, Celestial Spirit Magic gets to be categorized as both Holder and Spatial type. Spatial Magic is versatile enough itself to fit both holder and caster types. However these categories are inherent to all natural users of magic. What I’ve understood from all the replies is that Mystogan used magic artificially while in Earthland, just like any ordinary human from the 90% of Earthland’s population of non-magic people who get to use magic imbued lacrima created by actual mages. While actual holder type mages simply use an extra item for output, to shape the MP/ethernano into the wanted result. It was Lucy who had to get 2nd Origin, not her keys

          • actionmanrandell

            no i am sorry but you are wrong. Erza is a caster type mage this is an irrefutable fucking fact. sure she uses swords in her attacks the swords themself are classified as holder magic. but Erza her self is a caster type. Requip is a CASTER type magic. The Knight is a Caster magic. moreover Erza uses Telekinesis to control her swords. and 90% of earthland population DO NOT use artificial magic. absolutely everyone in earthland has magical energy in them. but most people don’t take the time to learn how to use magic. but absolutely every one in earthland could learn it. and those who learn magic. IE MAGES don’t have to rely on holder magic. for example cana could learn requip if she wanted to , she could learn celestial spirit magic. magic is universal and absolutely anyone in earthland can learn any form of magic if they put there mind to it. mystogan also doesn’t have artificial magic because artificial implies that it was created by a man. it wasn’t he used magic from lacrima infused weapons. but none the less the magic itself was natural

          • Porthya

            I never said they use artificial magic, I said they use devices or items imbued with magic by actual mages, or other magic creatures, or pre-enchanted by themselves. They don’t use artificial magic, they use magic artificially, there’s an important semantic difference. It’s a fact Warren, who is a mage, invented the communication lacrimas that look like smart phones. Those magic lacrimas are man made, the weaponry or items some mages use are man made. And not all of the humans in FT have an affinity for magic even though every human exists in a world full of ethernano and is subjected to its effects to a degree. In Earthland, some people(those ~10%) are born with the ability of absorbing ethernano and “processing” it into Magic(Power), it was explained as such both in the beginning of FT, and in FT Zero(at least the anime, I don’t remember exactly if it was in the manga as well) and that is a fact. Not absolutely everyone could “learn” to use magic, otherwise Sherria never lost her magic powers after the forced 3rd Origin which metaphorically, probably “burned” that magic container of hers. I also never stated mages have to rely on Holder Magic, where did you get that from?! I only said certain mages, the holder type, use extra items for certain actions. Erza is a Caster thanks to telekinesis, but she’s not a Fire “maker”, like Natsu or Flare, nor a Water user(caster magic as well), but she can use those elements or display resistance to them through various armors and weapons. That means she acts as a Holder mage.\nShe’s not strictly a Caster, there’s nothing in the canon source available claiming a mage can be only a Caster, Holder OR whatever other type there is out there. She is a Holder type of mage as long as she uses weaponry/armors devised to perform a certain task or enhance just a certain feature. She’s a Spatial mage as long as she can access dimensional pockets where she stores her armory, she’s a Caster since she uses her telekinesis to reach her armors/weapons and equip them. But she’s a Holder as well as she uses pre-enchanted items(her weaponry) in conjunction with her own natural abilities to perform a certain action. Like mimicking elemental casters’ abilities(Sea Empress Armor, Fire Empress Armor, Wind God Armor) or for specific features like speed or flight(Flight Armor) to counter or overwhelm her opponents. Those weapons don’t activate their abilities/skills themselves, randomly, she does. In exchange for MP. Even the Nakagami set was described as only usable by mages with a huge amount of Magic or Stamina(depends on translation). Those are facts.\nPlus, you’re ignoring all-rounder mages like Zeref or August and to a certain degree Hades, who use a vast variety of types of magic if not all known types and some unknown. I haven’t had the time to recheck the chapters about Mystogan, so I won’t continue the discussion on him till I have my manga facts clear on him.

          • actionmanrandell

            wrong. it was stated in the manga that absolutely every human in earthland can learn magic. it was said that 10% are predisposed to it. meaning they can easily learn it. all explain it in the simplest terms. not everyone is predisposed for cancer. but absolutely everyone can get cancer under the right circumstances. the same thing. absolutely everyone in earthland has ethernano in there bodies and as such with enough training can absorb more ethernano into there system and as such learn magic. this is a fact. even then not once do they say in fairy tail that only 10% of people in earthland are predisposed or capable of learning magic. what they said was that Mages make up 10% of the population with the other 90% being either incapable or unwilling to use Magic. this is not saying that the some of them are absolutely incapable of using it in any manner. what this is saying is that the other 90% are incapable of using it under the circumastances of not actually learning it. this is not syaing that some of them can’t and some of them could learn. its simply saying the other 90% don’t use it because they can’t because of unwillingness to learn. and for erza. she only uses holder magic when she is grasping the weapons in her hands. when she is using them remotely thats a caster magic. requip itself is a caster magic. and in the battle statistics of her character she is referred to as a caster type. the reason is that her magic is Requip. sword magic is part of the requip spell. requip is a caster magic. she uses requip to summon the swords to attack with them. but the swords are apart of her requip and as such they are part of a caster system.

          • Porthya

            I don’t even understand what you’re getting at with your argument, my points where these:\n1. Whether I misunderstood or not Mystogan’s situation, canon info is that only few humans of Earthland can use Magic or have magic containers to process Ethernano into Magic Power and store it. So as far as canon goes, Mystogan the visitor, his people and the rest of non magic users in Earthland are essentially non-mages(if we consider the standard meaning of “mage” in this story and I simply forgot that detail about Edolas people). If you do know where it was specifically said “absolutely” all people in Earthland are naturally able to produce MP and use it and it’s only a matter of choice in developing it, do point out the chapter and page to actually prove me “wrong”. I honestly would accept it as long as it’s there, in the story. Maybe I did misunderstand about Edolas humans having those “containers” as well, but so far, they apparently don’t, so Mystogan and other parallel characters where never “natural” mages to begin with, thus he couldn’t even be an actual holder type(My conundrum was over him being an innate mage, thus a holder type, or a non-mage using the magic produced by actual mages then stored into his staves.). They did have access artificially(indirectly) to Magic and I confused the items the Edolas people used with the items specific to actual holder type mages, who still produce MP on their own, naturally, out of Ethernano. Tbh, Mashima never expanded on Edolas enough for us to understand whether they were ever able to naturally produce Magic and the ability got lost along with most of the Ethernano and how did they ever get to create the anima, their artificial means of drawing Magic. As for the difference, it holds, I can’t even consider the possibility of “artificial magic”, that would be strictly science, while in FT there are artificial means of accessing it, storing it, using it. There is a semantic difference between drawing/using Magic(a natural energy) artificially and artificial magic per se.\n2. This whole thing about Erza, Lucy etc was about showcasing mages capable of the holder type(regardless if it’s their main specialty or just an extra, since again, I never argued that Erza was mainly a Holder, I explained that she uses Holder magic as well as Spatial or Caster, her main type) are still those who naturally produce their own MP, as part of their physiology, even as they use an external item for output(like the weapons and armors Erza uses for certain features she naturally doesn’t posses, but that still use her MP as “fuel”). And I used them as example in case Mystogan had, just like them, that infamous “magic container” which he couldn’t use, for god knows what reasons, in Edolas, but was able to use in Earthland. It seems it’s not the case.\n3. This was all about whether Mystogan was ever a mage(according to FT standards) or not. I got it cleared. It was always a bit confusing for me to properly grasp what Mystogan was, since he was an S-Class member of FT, but never used magic of his own.\n4. Your own take on whether “people can’t use (Magic)” is so contorted you’re actually contradicting yourself. They either can process the Ethernano into Magic, or they can’t. Unwillingness automatically translates into 2 types of choice: conscious and subconscious. But it always looked like for random natural reasons humans were either “able” or “unable” to process the Ethernano into MP. It’s like being born with a mutation(an extra gland) or without it.

          • actionmanrandell

            i am not contradicting myself its stated right in the canon. the first time we are told that mages make up only 10% of the population. absolutely every human in earthland has magic in there body this is an irrefutable fact. this is exactly the reason that Face would cause harm to absolutely every human in earthland. they specifically then stated that it would harm mages even more because mages actually have a shit tonne of ethernano in there bodies and as such it will kill most of the mages. since every human in earthland has a natural level of ethernano in there bodies. this means that absolutely everyone human born in earthland can become a mage with training. in this link it explains that mages make up 10% of the population and says that They comprise only 10% of the living population of Earth Land, with the remaining 90% being either incapable or unwilling to use Magic(note in japanese writing when you use either blank or blank in a subject the either is connecting the two creating effect and cause meaning when it says either incapable or unwilling its saying they are incapable of using magic because they are unwilling to. incapable is the effect and unwiling is the cause.) \nhttp://fairytail.wikia.com/wiki/Mage and when you think logically it wouldn’t make sense if 90% of the population wasn’t able to learn to be mages since they all have magic in them in small parts. the magic container is built up once they have a specific amount of magic(never said the amount required) also if you watch fairy tail zero when magic tries to get zeref to teach the group magic. he doesn’t once say that they may not be able to. he simply teaches them how to absorb ethernano from the surrounding

          • Porthya

            Face wasn’t built to kill humans, it simply wipes out magic, why would mages build a device that would work to this extreme against them as well in the 1st place?! And I asked for a manga reference, not a wikia link, I can browse that myself and I’ve searched the main articles for the chapter references to an “absolute” explanation and there is none. Also, you can’t generalize from the founding team’s experience with learning magic since it was never cleared up(to my memory) whether they were undeveloped representatives of the 10% group of magic able people or part of the non-mage 90%. There was never made a clear statement as to which group of humans Yuriy, Precht and Warrod pertained, the story simply goes into Zeref teaching them. The argument between Rusty Rose and Elfman back on Tenroujima does claim those 90% simply can’t use magic, which apparently lead to the general plan of Grimoire Heart to eliminate the non-mages instead of attempting to force magic development onto as many people as possible for their desire to achieve a “magic utopia”. The wikia contributors left the claims about those 90% being “either incapable or unwilling to use magic” since we don’t have an 100% fail-proof explanation of what humans are able or not to do. But even the development of the explanation in the FT Zero anime suggests far more strongly that only those who after absorbing ethernano from the environment are able of processing it into materialized released energy taking various forms can become mages. It’s the same thing as with real humans who based on how elevated their individual level of intelligence is can or can’t go into developed science, I’ve already explained it. If you’re only a person of average intelligence, it doesn’t matter how much time you spend in classes for advanced mathematics or physics, you won’t understand it or be able to apply it further.

          • actionmanrandell

            you clearly don’t pay attention. face causes Magic Deficiency Disease, it is specificaly stated that face will effect absolutely everyone human. when aria used his magic on makerav it was stated that Magic Deficiency Disease effects are determined by how much magical energy a person has. normal people who have not undergone any magical training have a small amount of magical energy. and i mean absolutely every normal person. FACT. it was stated that because makerav had so much magic he most likely would die. face itself is far worse. its a magical palse bomb. it will essentially instantanously destroy all ethernano in a being. for mages this would be an instant death. and the “either incapable or unwilling to use magic” was not simply added by wikia contributors it was literally stated right in the damn manga. and the japanese language is a literal language. they say what they mean. and in japanese when they add the term Either it doesn’t mean “some people have are in capable and others unwilling” when japanese put an either they mean the people are incapable because they are unwilling. and in one of his interviews hiro mashima stated that every human in earthland can learn magic

          • Porthya

            You’re the one who’s not paying attention and who keeps yelling “fact” but doesn’t provide actual references. Provide an example of chapter and page where it was literally stated that “every single human has a bit of magic in their bodies” and not “ethernano”(the raw energy that can be transformed into magic) as well as a reference to where Hiro Mashima’s interview can be found(the one with the mention of “magic can be learned by anyone”). I’m not asking for external links, just traceable info. Because just as Zeref referred to only mages when he explained how “producing” magic works(he constantly used the term “madoushi” without a single use of the term “hito”=person, human), Aria could’ve done the same. \nAnd where did you take that crazy assumption Japanese doesn’t have figurative speech or polysemy from(cause that’s how rigid you’re implying Japanese to be from the “either” issue)?! I may not have had the chance to extensively study Japanese, but at least I know the basics and excuse me if I’m reluctant in accepting explanations of how a complex language like Japanese works(especially in writing fiction) from someone who mishandles a very common language like English with such ease, on top of misspelling character names known to us for more than 500 chapters. \nYou keep coming back with the same extreme claims, yet don’t provide anything tangible to support them. Please, give it a rest, we’re not getting anywhere like this and the conversation is already becoming boring.

          • actionmanrandell

            also your exact words were “What I’ve understood from all the replies is that Mystogan used magic artificially while in Earthland,”

        • Yeah, but it’s impossible for her to have got so strong in such a small amount of time. Okay, it’s 8 years, but you’ve got to think that nobody in Fairy Tail is as strong as her magic wise, also some of them have learnt it their whole lives, and some very young.

        • Well now we know it’s not Erza or Knightwalker, so this conversation is now pointless xD

          • Porthya

            I know, since last Saturday

    • Yuma Yamamoto

      “Now Erza’s two hands are (kinda) messed up, and Eileen is wearing gloves (or have weird hands, I lean for the gloves)… Maybe Eileen is from a more messed up parallel world or from a future timeline.”

    • LoveAnimation

      I think Eileen means that she probably created Erza to be just like her like a copy or something like that and not that shes from the future.

  • Daisuke Suzuya Uchiha

    Future Erza

    • Lucian Crowe

      That’s what I was thinking. its not like the first future character we got considering the whole Eclipse gate stuff.

  • Galen Vaughn

    the end transformation was complete bs like the fuck was that lol? also i couldnt care less about erza or irene bleh

    • LoveAnimation

      The E.N.D stuff is obviously not over and will probably continue later.\nIt felt too early for Natsu to transform into E.N.D for me so if hes back to normal for now im happy about it.\nIt feels like something that should be saved for the end of the arc or after this arc to me and not right now when many of the Spriggans are still around and its not time to fight Zeref or Acnologia yet.

    • Duck Dealer

      no it wasnt. the book hasnt been opened. what we saw was just the result of zeref stabbing the book. just some magic leaking through the hole in the book i guess

  • Wizard

    Kidney theory is back 😀

  • Toshi

    So is she from future or something?

    • Karen Kanetsugu

      She can’t be Future-Erza. I think Eileen said to Neinhard that she wants to kill Erza. So why should she kill herself?

  • Ichigo

    Well maybe erza is a sword or something changed into human … just like these two girls that mirajane fought with… after all mirajane was suprised that someone had this kind of power …maybe it was a hinted..\n

  • oScrub

    who agree that Irene and Erza are twins. They switched their names since they were separated when they were young\n.P.S I am sure not further Erza since Irene order her comrades to kill her, once Erza Is killed she will be gone too\n

  • Kemor

    Erza Knightwalker, who was sent to Earthland by Mystogan, kidnapped and experimented on, making her Irene. Imagine that. Knightwalker was never suspended in time, so she’s obviously physically older than this Erza. Erza right here is around 21, meaning that Knightwalker would be 28. Take a helpless, powerless girl with humongous potential, torture her, put some lacrima inside of her body and vouilla – you got a woman as strong as August.

    • Elichi_48

      Knightwalker has a scar on her face..

  • JonSilver02

    I think Irene enchanted herself to Erza when Erza was still a kid/baby that’s why they have the same characteristics and presence, and if that’s true, it could be the reason why Erza can’t remember her and why Irene wants Erza dead because she knows that Erza is her masterpiece and could be her oblivion (the same case as Natsu and Zeref). I came up with this based on what Zeref said that Irene is prodigous when it comes to attaching and removing magic from objects (not necessarily an object itself, it could be a person just like Mavis because she tried to remove the fairy heart to her.

  • Hui Wen

    I understand why Eileen is wearing gloves, its because in the last chapter while she was stopping Natsu and Gray, their magic hit her hand \n, maybe that’s why. But this is still a suggestion

  • FuuKaku

    I see eileen is future erza? Just like future rogue?

  • Minato

    Wanted to see natsu doing a number on gray. What a let down

    • Alyss Kuriyama

      Since there wasn’t a good reason for them to fight in the first place, there wasn’t really any good fight to expect.

      • Minato

        You are right. But Gray being ” i will kill end etc etc ” is too annoying atleast for me. A person should know his place and his opponents.

  • Irene is a High enchanter with the power to attach magic and power to things giving personality to these. maybe Erza is something similar to a homunculus with half of her soul and primordial power (The Knight) That’s why Eileen was expelled from Ishigar and had to learn a new form of magic from Zeref.

  • Larcade

    Hey hey are we going to get into time travel and sh*t

  • Natsu934

    Maybe Erza is a clone of Eileen

    • DragonFairy

      Wouldn’t that make it so Erza has the same magic as Eileen though?

  • Manga Lover

    Now the real fight is going to start and also some secret to be revealed

  • Euan Whelband

    ERAS IRENES ENCHANTMENT IM CALLING IT ps i got this from youtuber senpaifruit

  • Devin Krike

    To those who say she is Erza from different timeline, I don’t think so. I think she is her mother. The magic they use is totally different, they cannot be same people.

    • MsChanify

      Maybe her twin? Twins aren’t always identical.

    • سايا

      Me too , i think shes’s her mother

    • Kyra Taylor

      DID YOU HEAR THAT’S NOT ERZAS MOTHER YOU BUM!

      • actionmanrandell

        saying”i am you, you are me” doesn’t mean she isn’t her mom. in philosphy children are just extentions of there parents so her saying”i am you, you are me” could be similar to saying”we are of the same flesh and blood”

        • Kyra Taylor

          I didn’t say it

      • Devin Krike

        Check chapter 513, I as well as many fans fucking called it.

        • Kyra Taylor

          No one cares bub

          • Devin Krike

            You replying to this and my previous comment proves that you at least care.

          • Kyra Taylor

            No not really lolicon

          • Kyra Taylor

            No one does but your mums ass.

  • fish8100

    Thanks for the spoilers :-). So as it stands Gray and Happy are still the only FT members to properly know about Natsu being END? Wonder what might happen to get him to carry on transforming again.

    • Elichi_48

      Only if they open or destroy the book..

  • latinalover

    what if Eileen is the evil side to erza?

  • TheExorcist95

    oh great, Erza will fight her evil mother/sister/herself and she will win with a stupid power up… I am sooo hypeeeeeeeee\n\nErza’s tits fixed everything, good to know that all of this was just filler

    • Kyra Taylor

      Didn’t you hear that’s not ERZAS mum or anything read you bum.

  • animelover58

    Twins?

  • Reyna Rodriguez

    Just another average chapter for this arc…(except for Irene and Erza meeting) l my hype for Natsu’s transformation died in the previous chapter. T_T

    • Elichi_48

      Our only hope for Natsu’s full transformation is the book.. Got the feeling that Zeref will use it against Acnologia..

  • animelover58

    What if erza never existed, what if shes an illusion

  • EliteTrainerXeos

    Yet another “It’s because she’s Erza.” moment. \n\nGetting a bit tired of this. Ever since the BS in her fight with Kyouka, I don’t look forward to her fights anymore.

  • Serana Crossgrove

    Not looking forward to Erza’s bullshit

  • Nashi Dragneel

    I can’t wait for this arc to be in the anime! But WTF Hiro

  • ChubbyMikari

    Nalu forever !!♥

    • Simmila Simmer

      YESSS!

  • Millaray Gonzalez

    WTF? What the heck? Im confuse :’v

  • zeyzey

    I can’t understand irene said I am you but is she erza’s consciousness

  • Celaena Sardothien

    I AM SO CONFUSED BUT I’M HAPPY THAT LUCY AND JUVIA FINALLY CAME BACK.

  • Kyra Taylor

    See Erza isn’t related with Irene i knew it.

  • Robert Orwell

    I didn’t understand what Irene meant by saying: “I am you. You are me”. Nonetheless, it just proves that Erza is, indeed, monstrously strong. But the part of the spoilers I liked the most was August vs Crime Sorcière: first, because August is finally engaging in battle; second, because Crime Sorcière is resisting to him, even though August is seemingly having the upper-hand, which proves that Jellal and the others are incredibly strong and skilled.

  • WhatsAname

    Oh baby, one of my theoretical battles is going to begin (Jellal vs August.) So, anyone want to explain this fuckery of “I am you. You are me.” bullshit?

  • iamleke

    So no one is going to say we could POSSIBLY get Jellal, Lexus, and Gildarts vs August cause in my opinion that’s gonna be the best fight in the series

  • Just Apple

    Does nobody care that Natsu has no f**King magic and he’s been fighting Gray with fire this entire f**king time?!

    • okkkkkkkkkkkk im reloaded

      What the fuck are you talking about?

      • Just Apple

        Um I don’t know. END has curse power and if he was fighting Gray as END that means he had no magic power but was still using fire against Gray :/. How the hell did nobody realize that (Not real people I’m talking about the characters).

        • okkkkkkkkkkkk im reloaded

          Ever think his curse power is fire? Also Natsu hasn’t fully transformed into END yet. Its the beginning stages once he fully becomes END. He’ll look like a straight up demon. Not just have claws.

          • Just Apple

            What do you think I meant by saying “He’s using fire to fight Gray without having any magic”? And yes I understand he is only in his beginning stages of END but he is still END. I’m just confused as to how nobody has noticed he is using fire to fight Gray although he has no magic power.

          • okkkkkkkkkkkk im reloaded

            Once again use your common sense bruh. Its not rocket science, that could be his curse power as well. Or since its the beginning stages of END’s transformation. He can still use magic. Temporary/beginning stages of END is not the real deal END.

          • Just Apple

            It wouldn’t be that he can still use magic because in no way is that possible. Remember that tumor that ended up being the reserve power or sealed power of END that Zeref broke the seal on when he shot the book of END? When the breaking of the seal started to take effect, all of Natsu’s magic was expelled from his body as if something was taking over and replacing it which was his curse power. \n\nI understand they are all confused and not focusing, but how can you not sense that Natsu has no magic at all?

          • okkkkkkkkkkkk im reloaded

            Well then fire is more than likely his curse power as well as Natsu’s magic. Were you expecting him to bust out some water attacks or something? lol

          • Just Apple

            No… I’ve known for the longest time he is a fire demon meaning his curse power is fire which we were told by Silver. But like I said I’m just confused as hell as to how these people don’t realize Natsu is using fire to fight Gray when he has no magic lol.

          • okkkkkkkkkkkk im reloaded

            Ohh LMFAO I’m so damn stupid i see what your saying now. Honestly man I didn’t even notice until right now lol

          • Just Apple

            LMAO it’s okay. But seriously, how the hell do they not realize he has been using fire to fight Gray despite not having any magic power at all?! Are they just that out of tune?

  • elluka

    OH MY GOD

  • gruviagfjl

    OMG I SERIOUSLY NEED HELP RIGHT NOW\nTHE FEELS ARE KILING ME\nI SHIP THEM SO MUCH I JUST CAN’T EVEN BREATH\nit’s so much happenin oh god I’m not ok\ni ship Gruvia for the very first time I saw them OH MY SHIT\nand Nalu jesus I need JESUS\nAND WHAT DOES THAT BITCH MEAN? WTF\nI AM YOU. YOU’RE ME\nWTF MAN\nHIRO-SAMA WE NEED ANSWERS\nI’m about to explode

    • Dimaria Yesta

      GURL SAME

  • Alyss Kuriyama

    Aaaand, the fight ended exactly as expected. Really, Natsu and Gray fighting was pointless. And somehow, Jellal and August are fighting. Somehow, someway, they crossed paths and decided it would be time to duel.

  • Michaela

    I am thinking they are twins…maybe? Cause if you add the missing 7 years they would be about the same age

  • Manga Lover

    Now the real fight is going to start and also some secret to be revealed

  • captain Lassiter

    August is haki’d up

  • Adil Boughlala

    I’m thinking that Erza is just as the other 2 (annoying) girls whose names I’ve long forgotten (the ones Mira defeated with Alegria form), a weapon with an emotion/soul (varying translations) implanted by Irene. But wait… would that mean Erza would become a weapon again if Irene gets defeated/killed?

    • Dimaria Yesta

      I don’t think Erza is an enchantment of Eileen because it simply wouldn’t make sense \n\n1- why would Eileen make a child enchantment \n\n2- Eileen would simply control Erza to defeat Fairytail because she is an enchantment not a human \n

      • Adil Boughlala

        Okay if I get thos right you think I said that Erza was enchanted to become a child to Eileen. I never even said anything like that.. And btw Eileen calls her Enchantments her “children” so it would make sense if she called Erza that too. \n\nThe second thing is that it hasn’t been proven that Eileen can ‘control’ her Enchantments let alone human beings. The fact that Neinhart did what Eileen wanted, was because he was probably very frightened by her (makes sense as he was almost crying)

  • mchan1

    OK…\nErza calmed Gray and Natsu down. Juvia is happy with Gray now and Lucy is happy with Natsu also.\n\nJellal fighting with August is a surprise.\n\n”Irene: “I am you.” You are me.””\nWTH?!\nSo Eileen/Irene is not Erza’s mother.\n\nPossibilities:\n1. Erza is a clone of Eileen/Irene.\n2. Eileen/Irene split herself years ago and that split self was Erza.\n3. Eileen/Irene came from a different time line and not from the future as killing Erza would kill Eileen/Irene.\n\nHiro is Trolling the FT Fans!

  • Crafting Umbreon- Road to 100

    So is gray the only one that cares on natsu being a demon\n

  • Rei Chan

    her twin?

  • FuuKaku

    So if larcade dragneel battle against natsu, then Gildarts will be the one to beat zeref? \n\nWe had seen the battle of natsu vs Zeref in the beginning so i think it’s make sense if hiro doesn’t show it again

    • Jayzii

      Gildarts doesn`t stand a chance against Zeref. Only Acnologia or Natsu can beat Zeref now.

  • Rift

    She can’t be future erza. If she is, she could’ve remembered fairly tail and join them against spriggan and I don’t know the rest

    • FuuKaku

      Do you remember future Rogue? He didn’t join sabertooth either because froch death… If eileen is future erza im sure there’s something bad had happened to her. maybe it was Jellal death

  • iceleopard 1144

    Noooooooooo! Jellal~senpai. Erza go see Jellal before something bad happens!

    • Elichi_48

      Lol.. Your Jellal~senpai is fighting someone worst..

  • Dimaria Yesta

    My theory is : old powerful fiore woman wizard who has very strong enchantment and Requip Magic the fiore military cloned her so when she dies they have clones of her so they did but they made a tiny mistake which made Eileen and Erza kids so they put them in prison and torcherd them ( cutting out Ezra’s eyes and scaring Eileen in the stomach ) then Erza lost her memory and both of the girls escaped then the tower of heaven guys stole Erza and Eileen went to Alvarez now Eileen hates Erza and fiore and wants to kill them all ( Eileen is stronger and older than Erza because 7 years time skip ) I highly doubt my theory but idk @-@

    • actionmanrandell

      erza lost her eye in the tower of heaven

  • Gen Eastäwich

    I am you, you are me. Lost twins. It could be

  • Marwan Salman

    she aint knightwalker because knightwalker is not evil and that can’t be a future version of erza because she has scars that Erza doesn’t have and has a different style and different magic. could either be her mom or a clone that zeref created like what he did whit rahkeid dragneel which isnt a real dragneel just a made up person/ clone. anyways they aren’t the same at all because nothing about them is connected to each other other than eileen knowing erza is alive which could mean either sisters or mother and daughter. i dont know and ill let you guys debate about this to see what happens in chapter 508.

    • actionmanrandell

      they have not said anything about Larcade. never once have they said that he is not a real dragneel. for all we know he is zerefs son

  • Dibyasree

    Irene probably detached Erza (maybe her good half, or something) from herself.. since she’s good at that sort of stuff

  • actionmanrandell

    possible explanations on what eileen means. we know that she is able to things from something maybe Erza was her good side. and Eileen thought Her Erza side was a weakness so she removed her and discarged her. or maybe her and Erza are twin sisters and she is simply meaning the are one in the same because they are twins. or maybe she is saying “You are my flesh and blood IE daughter or sister etc”

    • FuuKaku

      Such a good point… Maybe she discarged erza to remove her naive

    • Elichi_48

      Maybe they are like Zero and Brain from Oracion Seis.. But seperated..

  • actionmanrandell

    another theory. when erza was a child her magic was unstable and killing her like how Ultear’s magic was unstable and killing her. so her parents used there magical knowlege to detach half of her magic and created a doppleganger of her. then after years of raising Erza and Eileen as twin sisters. Eileen found out the truth and found out that once both of them were old enough and strong enough. they would use there magic to merge them back together. so Eileen angry at her and Erza’s parents killed them out of anger. and then tried to kill Erza so she could never lose herself. but in a last ditch effort to save erza’s life her parents cast a spell that teleported erza away. making Eileen believe that Erza is dead

    • FuuKaku

      It sounds so uchiha

  • Abdulrahman Al-Haddad

    Or maybe, she is Erza evil counterpart, like a thought projection and she wabts to kill Erza so that she can’t get sucked back into Erza and make Erza get back her true strength, just like Meliodas in Nanatsu no Taizai

  • mja

    I think Irene is Erza’s sister?

  • Nalu Dragneel

    maybe she is erza*s mom?\nor someone related to her

  • Raluca Barbu

    Did anyone thought that Irene might be Erza’s twin sister?.. OMG! That would be cool as fuck!

  • iamsunline

    Wait! Who is Irene? She is Erza? OMG! My brain….. 😮 :O

  • Raluca Barbu

    Did anyone thought that Irene might be Erza’s twin sister?.. OMG! That would be cool as fuck!

  • I FUCKING KNEW IT!!! I KNEW EILEEN WAS FUTURE ERZA

  • Serana Crossgrove

    Erza is a piece of trash shit character

  • EtherionDragon

    I called it. Knew it was a future version of Erza. Like I said before I bet it involves the Eclipse Gate

  • Ahhhh so Jellal finally gets some panel time! I thought he was gone for eternity.\nand… Erza can you please leave my baby Natsu alone? **growls jealously** Natsu you should watch your mouth, it’s fated for another breast (coughcoughlucyscoughcough)

  • DragonFairy

    WTF?!?!?!?!?!?!?!\nSo… Maybe she’s some sort of alternate Erza… Cause she isn’t Knightwalker, and she DEFINITLY doesn’t have the same magic as Erza, unless she’s a future Erza who learned more magic, but I think she’s an Erza that had stayed in the Tower, that’s why the different magic, so maybe Eileen is an Erza from the future, who changed the future? That doesn’t make sense, but I have no other idea. Unless they’re twins… Yeah going with twins!\n… Or Erza could be a Enchanment Eileen made to look like her so Eileen could save herself or something… Nah, cause Erza is too complex, and she did live in Rosemary Village… I got nothing, Eileen makes no sense!

  • DragonFairy

    OK, so Lucy isn’t kidnapped so someone explain how the fricking hell ERZA got there first??? Cause Lucy was closest to them and Erza was the otherside of the battlefield pretty much!!! Also, why are Erza’s arms ok now???

  • Blank

    Irene’s magic are from the future taht even acnologia dont know the names of what magics she is using, so she’s probably Erzas future? lol ahhh my mind xD

    • Manga Lover

      I don’t why but it makes sense

  • Crafting Umbreon- Road to 100

    Edolas erza?

  • Nelson Cardoso

    omw that is easy, she is erza mother. see all dialogs of her and the ones she sends to kill her

  • Hau King

    Future Lucy not furore\nIrene is erzs daughter

  • Shadowstars1107

    It can’t be Knightwalker because she and Erza left on good terms and Knightwalker cut all her hair off into a bob cut but here it’s way longer and thicker

  • Wallaby

    Wow still sad about Makarov and I really hope Gray doesn’t just miraculously fall in love with Juvia after this smh

  • onelag

    Always thought she was Erza’s mother. Isnt that it?

  • caramel

    I think she is Erza elder sister…

  • BREADU

    And everyone thought erza would prevent a ship moment. Ha, wrong

  • Dragneel07

    Guys it’s Erza’s long lost twin sister. That’s the answer you was looking for…. Maybe…

  • Sakom Raiya

    Twins.

  • Shelby Lane

    Maybe Irene means that as in blood. I have relatives that have said to each other, “I am you and you are me because we have the same blood,” however, I’m not getting that sense from her words. I’m getting more of the sense that she means she is either future Erza or possibly Erza Knightwalker from Edolas? The Erza in Edolas was quite against Fairy Tail until she tied with Earthland’s Erza when they fought in Edolas. I have a couple of theories, but I actually still kind of hope that she is related to Erza in some form or another.

  • bigpitx LP

    Das ist erzas mutter das erfärht man doch im manga eileen kommt doch auch von dort das hat sie selbst im manga erwänt

  • Senorous

    It’s likely that due to some spell Erza was taken out from Eileen. It’s possible that Erza is the physical embodiment of part of Eileens personality. Maybe she or someone else wanted to get remove Eileens “good side” which ended up becoming Erza. That or a strand of Eileens hair was enchanted to become Erza lol

  • Subhan Shahid

    REally wish you’d stick to translating FT 🙁

  • Cliff Mason

    What if it’s like a Demon King Piccolo and Kami thing? Eileen has the ability to affix her magic onto things, and also remove magic from objects, is it not possible she was able to split herself in order to rid herself of something she didn’t want? Maybe she wanted to remove her wickedness and the wicked side instead became Eileen, and the noble kind side became Erza? Just a thought, may be too borrowed from another anime but I think it would fit.

  • Kinzy Moataz

    OMG… the feels man…\n

  • Miriel Yeh

    Maybe Erza is Eileen’s Daughter…

  • Radzman V. Valvoline

    Irene/eileen scarlet, erza’s mother\n\n

    • Cynne Soria

      Yeah but why did she say “I am you, You are me” in the end. I kinda thought ‘maybe she’s the future Erza, but then why would she want to kill Erza if she’s Erza herself (future). Because if she killed Erza, she wouldn’t even exist. Then, I had a flashback about Natsu saying Silver smells like Gray. I was hoping Wendy says something similar, but all she said is that she looks similar to Erza. I’m hoping that Hiro will explain everything. An extra thought/prediction, what if Eileen/Irene would be the one to reveal that Natsu’s END?

  • gruviagfjl

    IT’S OUT\nIT’S MOTHER FUCKING OUT AND I’M GOING CRAZY\nI CAN’T STAND THIS ANYMORE\nFUCK MY LIFE

  • Cynne Soria

    It’s OUT! It’s OUT!

  • nalujerzagalegruvia

    personally i think it could be her mother because there is no way knightwalker is gonna get out of edolas and there is the scar on irene’s stomache which could have happened due to erzas birth and it was said that irene had immigrated from ishgar to alakitasia

  • Chica Loca

    Her mother!!!! Isn’t that obvious? Wendy even said “They look alike”. Idk, why the hell are people saying Knightwalker because that’s just dumb, to be honest (no offense). A future Erza is a maybe, but the woman’s name is Irene and they do look a bit different. That’s my theory. Also, I am hyped for when Acnologia comes and just like bombass destroys shit. BTW, speaking of destroying, Jellal what the hell. I thought at least you could get a swing at the guy, damn. And finally, the NaLu and Gruvia in this chapter was just perfect and so cute!! Overall, I’m satisfied with it, and can’t wait for the battle between Team Natsu and Irene. Oh shit, this will be interestinggg…

  • Minato

    Gray and Erza most over rated characters of FT verse. While mirajane and laxus remain most under rated

    • King Ger

      Definitely Mirajane an “S Class mage of FT” and Rival of Erza was the most underrated character in FT. I was hoping she will have a spriggan opponent(doesn’t count Jacob though)

  • WildG

    Ok it can’t be Knightwalker Erza. If it was that would just not make sense [and that’s mostly from a narrative perspective as it now opens an array of questions like]: \n\na) how did she come back to Earthland/ if you recall they all returned essentially the same location [which is how Lily saw and captured Lissana] so the other Erza couldn’t have come with as not only did the people who were teleported have magic inside them but she also would have been noticed right off the bat by Lily and Dragon slayers \n\n b) why would she ally against Fairy Tail considering how much they’ve helped them/ and not feel any remorse or guilt\n \nc) Taking into account the time skip, I can understand that Erza could possibly look like that as she would technically be 26 year old, but this Irene has this totally different vibe to her as if she’s an entirely different person. \n\nd [and the biggest one] ) where did she get ALL this power from? I mean she teleported like half a country into the shamble of mix-matched landscape it is now.\n So for an erza that started off with no power that’s a PRETTY significant power boost from no magic to god of magic for just a span of 7 years. Honestly, this kinda feels like people saying Black Goku was Goten all over again…Just how?

  • ChubbyMikari

    Ist halt eben so xD